Vic on Swallow Time


Transcribed by vanness of Faithful 4ever's Forum


Yan Jie: Today is the first time I'm gonna be having Zhou Yu Min on the show. He's also known as Zai Zai. I heard he's a Gemini. I also heard he's a bit lazy. I heard he's very generous. I also heard he had a lot going on. So today, I'm going to ask him about all these. We'll see Zai Zai in a bit.

Narration: Zhou Yu Min's nickname is Zai Zai, 20 years old, from Yilan. In the year 2001, he joined the cast of Meteor Garden, portraying the character of Hua Ze Lei, and skyrocketed to fame. This earned for Zai Zai, In the short span of less than one year, the adulation of young people all over Taiwan, China, and Southeast Asia. In 2002, he came out with his own album. Adopting a prince charming image, his album sold very well.

Yan Jie: Now let's all welcome Zai Zai Zhou Yu Min. Hi, how are you?
Zai Zai: Xiao Yan Jie, how are you? I have a gift here for you.
Yan Jie: How come you look taller and thinner than when I first saw you?
Zai Zai: Because..
Yan Jie: You're still growing?
Zai Zai: Yes. No. Actually I think it's because of the shoes I'm wearing today. That's why I look a bit taller. ļ
Yan Jie: More and more handsome. Ok, let's see what you have for me.
Zai Zai: This is my pillowcase.
Yan Jie: Your pillowcase?
Zai Zai: That's right.
Yan Jie: You have a pillowcase with your picture?
Zai Zai: Right.
Yan Jie: How does one get this?
Zai Zai: Those who reserved my album last January 1 will be getting a free gift ¡V a pillowcase. Then on the 5th of January, I will be autographing it.
Yan Jie: But what if I have two pillows, then I should order 2 CDs right?
Zai Zai: Right.
Yan Jie: Right, ok, thank you. Sleeping on Zai Zai's head every night isn't a bad thing, yeah? Thank you.
Zai Zai: Thank you.
Yan Jie: Zai Zai, please have a seat. Why are you called Zai Zai?
Zai Zai: Ever since I was small, that's how my mom called me.
Yan Jie: I suddenly noticed that when Zai Zai speaks, he has a bit of a lisp. Are you nervous? Before coming here for this interview today, did you spend last night thinking of what I might ask you and how you are going to answer?
Zai Zai: No.
Yan Jie: You did not think about it?
Zai Zai: Right.
Yan Jie: Were you able to get up this morning easily?
Zai Zai: Certainly.
Yan Jie: Do you love to sleep late?
Zai Zai: Very much so.
Yan Jie: Zai Zai they say is the most lovable among F4. They always say that among F4, you're the "happy fruit" cheerful, is that right?
Zai Zai: Uhmmm. (nods)
Yan Jie: Really?
Zai Zai: Uhm. (nods)
Yan Jie: But you're a Gemini.
Zai Zai: That's right.
Yan Jie: Do you know the special trait of Geminis?
Zai Zai: I don't know.
Yan Jie: Very intelligent, very talented, creative, will definitely have 2 loves.
Zai Zai: What 2 loves, what does that mean?
Yan Jie: What do I mean 2 loves.
Zai Zai: Do you mean having 2 girls at the same time?
Yan Jie: I don't mean that literally. It means, you will like this type of a person, at the same time also like the opposite type.
Zai Zai: Oh, you mean, different personalities.
Yan Jie: Is that right?
Zai Zai: Yes, you're right.
Yan Jie: nodding
Zai Zai: Yes, really.
Yan Jie: So doesn't that make things confusing?
Zai Zai: I don't think so.
Yan Jie: It's actually very good, right?
Zai Zai: Right. What I'm saying is that type of girl I like would vary so much. Like maybe.
Yan Jie: Is that really always the case? (meaning with Geminis)
Zai Zai: I don't know. For me, I'm like that, I don't know about the others.
Yan Jie: Ah, so you're like that. They say that with Geminis, you may see them today having this type of a girlfriend, then the next time you see him, he might have a girlfriend who's the total opposite of the previous one. Right?
Zai Zai: Uhm. (nods) Right.
Yan Jie: Your first is a Xue Jie (meaning a schoolmate who was older).
Zai Zai: My first girlfriend?
Yan Jie: What?
Zai Zai: What do you mean my first was a Xue Jie? What? (laughing)
Yan Jie: Your first love interest, was she an older schoolmate?
Zai Zai: No.
Yan Jie: What?
Zai Zai: Schoolmate.
Yan Jie: Classmate?
Zai Zai: Yes.
Yan Jie: Then it must've been your second girlfriend who was an older schoolmate.
Zai Zai: (scrunching his face, thinking)
Yan Jie: You have to take so long to recall her?
Zai Zai: It's just that I can't remember the order.(laughing) I had a girlfriend who was an older schoolmate. That's for sure. But I can't really consider her a Xue Jie, she was just older than me.
Yan Jie: Older than you..
Zai Zai: (nods)
Yan Jie: So you like someone who's older than you, you also like someone who's younger than you.
Zai Zai: It does not really matter, as long as it feels right, then it's fine.
Yan Jie: So it doesn't really matter as long as the feeling is right.
Zai Zai: That's right.
Yan Jie: It's harder to have a girlfriend now, right?
Zai Zai: Um.(agrees)
Yan Jie: Aww, that's too bad.
Zai Zai: Um.(agrees)
Yan Jie: Wherever you go, people are always taking notice of you.
Zai Zai: Um.(agrees)
Yan Jie: So how do you handle it?
Zai Zai: Well, I just don't try. Anyway, it'd be difficult to maintain a relationship because I don't have the time, so why even bother. But it's so sad.
Yan Jie: So sad, huh. So when do you plan to start courting someone?
Zai Zai: Well, if there's a chance then I would go for it. Actually, I would really like to have a girlfriend.
Yan Jie: I think he's so pitiful. Whenever he speaks, he would have to first look at the people around him. First, he's wondering whether he may have said the wrong thing. Second, he'd be wondering whether he can say those things. So pitiful. Ok, I won't ask you about these things for the meantime, so that you won't become too nervous. Come, let's take a look at some of your cute pictures. Tell me who's in those pictures.
Zai Zai: Ok
Yan Jie: Oh, is this you?
Zai Zai: No, that's my neighbor, hahaha. Nah, that's me, that's me.
Yan Jie: How old were you in this picture?
Zai Zai: I was about one or two years old.
Yan Jie: It doesn't look too much like you except for the eyes. It's not apparent that you'd grow up to be handsome.
Zai Zai: But I think it's very cute.
Yan Jie: Well, I concede that you were cute, but not handsome enough. Were you naughty when you were small?
Zai Zai: Naughty, really naughty, I was fond of..
Yan Jie: Fond of what?
Zai Zai: .going out.
Yan Jie: You were fond of going out to play.
Zai Zai: Right
Yan Jie: I think that's normal for boys. Have you ever been scolded or spanked by your mom?
Zai Zai: Yeah.
Yan Jie: Really?
Zai Zai: Well, because I liked to go out and play. Sometimes my mom would call my brother and I to do our homework right before she went to sleep. Then I would write some and wait for my mom to fall asleep, then slip out of the house to play. Sometimes I would be found out and she would have a scare because I was out playing. Then I'd surely get it when I get home.
Yan Jie: Does your mom and your elder brother look like you?
Zai Zai: Very much so. He's just a bit shorter, 170 cm.
Yan Jie: Two handsome brothers. Come let's take a look at the next picture. This is.
Zai Zai: This was my neighbor, that one pulling on my hair was my neighbor.
Yan Jie: Oh, the one pulling your hair was your neighbor, for a while there I thought the one pulling the hair was you. (in picture, zaizai was on the extreme right)
Zai Zai: No, no, I was the one whose hair was being pulled, but still I had to be facing the camera...hahahaha
Yan Jie: You still had to be looking at the camera
Zai Zai: Weird.
Yan Jie: What about the guy at the back ¡V is that your elder brother?
Zai Zai: That's my neighbor.
Yan Jie: Eh, you look very determined. Look at you with your hair being pulled, you still looked straight at the camera.
Zai Zai: Yeah, plus.
Yan Jie: Your eyes were even pulled to the side.
Zai Zai: And I was wearing leopard print.
Yan Jie: Wearing leopard print too.
Zai Zai: Right.
Yan Jie: Then who that at the back?
Zai Zai: He seems to be my neighbor too. Actually I'm not really sure who is who.
Yan Jie: Ok, when you were small, you look very naughty. Look at you, no one was looking at the camera, you were the only one facing the camera.
Zai Zai: Yeah.
Yan Jie: Did you want to become a star when you were small? Did you ever think of becoming a star when you were young?
Zai Zai: Well, yes, I did.
Yan Jie: You did. (looking amazed)
Zai Zai: I think becoming a star was a very good idea.
Yan Jie: Who was your favorite at that time?
Zai Zai: My first idol was already Andy Lau.
Yan Jie: Andy Lau?
Zai Zai: Right.
Yan Jie: Your first idol was Andy Lau.
Zai Zai: Uhm.
Yan Jie: How old were you?
Zai Zai: Mmm.(eyebrows lifted, seemingly surprised by the question)..must've been in junior high. Around the time I was in the sixth grade or maybe junior high.
Yan Jie: In the sixth grade and you already wanted to be like Andy Lau. Hey, you may really become And Lau, don't you know?
Zai Zai: No, that's scary.
Yan Jie: What do you mean ¡§that's scary¡¨, I really think you could become the next Andy Lau. Because of the way you sing, that kind of feeling. I really think it's very possible, like the realization of all your dreams.
Zai Zai: Aa.
Yan Jie: Great huh
Zai Zai: Uhm.
Yan Jie; But he does not have any girlfriends, he just works very hard.
Zai Zai: Is that for real?
Yan Jie: Look, what's this.
Zai Zai: That's me, eating sugar cane.
Yan Jie: Eating sugar cane?
Zai Zai: Yeah, they took a picture of me sitting on my heels.
Yan Jie: You look like you're doing your thing in the toilet.
Zai Zai: Hey, you're right! Actually that's at a park in Luo Dong. There are night markets all around and I just found a grassy spot to play in.
Yan Jie: You look like you had a happy childhood playing in Yilan. Oh my God, it that you?!
Zai Zai: That's me. When I was small, I was very fond of sports. I was a member of the track and field team. That's why the whole day ..
Yan Jie: You look a bit like grandma.
Zai Zai: Right, uh, actually like my mom.
Yan Jie: Oh, like your mom?
Zai Zai: But a bit darker.
Yan Jie: Even when you were small, your eyes were already very big.
Zai Zai: They were bigger before.
Yan Jie: You liked sports very much.
Zai Zai: Right, before.
Yan Jie: Did you ever join Lan Yang Dance Troupe?
Zai Zai: Ha? (flabbergasted) Lan Yang Dance Troupe?!? I'm into track and field, I like the more physical type, not ballet...hahaha
Yan Jie: Isn't Yilan famous for its Yilan Lan Yang Dance Troupe?
Zai Zai: Yes
Yan Jie: Right. Are only girls allowed to join?
Zai Zai: There are also boys.
Yan Jie: So there are boys too.
Zai Zai: Yes, in my place there's a guy who was a member of the dance troupe.
Yan Jie: Well, if you had joined the Lan Yang Dance Troupe, then you would dance differently now. Come, let's take a look at the next picture. Who's that!!!???
Zai Zai: Who gave this picture to them??!!!
Yan Jie: This looks like Taiwan's Ah Cheng. This one.
Zai Zai: Actually you must mean Taiwan's Ah Cheng's film pic.
Yan Jie: Right. How old were you here?
Zai Zai: Senior high.
Yan Jie: Looks like you're 30 years old.
Zai Zai: This was taken when I graduated from Senior High School
Yan Jie: That's how you looked when you graduated from Senior High?
Zai Zai: Uhm, taken during our outing. Actually this picture was posed.
Yan Jie: And I feel that you were already aspiring to become a big star at that time right?
Zai Zai: No. Because in the eyes of my classmates, I was a real funnyman. Then at that time I kept on snapping shots of them, asking them to do certain poses and I would also pose. So I told them to pretend, then I opened my mouth to ask them if this pose was good enough. So I was like, posing and talking and they suddenly took this shot. Not bad, even if I do say so myself.
Yan Jie: Uhm, you're right, it's not bad. Strictly speaking that type of clothing and hairstyle is really reminiscent of Taiwan's Ah Cheng. In the future you can follow in his footsteps.
Zai Zai: Hey, actually I think that idea has possibilities.
Yan Jie: I think it's not a bad idea at all. Let's take a look again if there are any more (pics). Oh, this is you.
Zai Zai: Right
Yan Jie: Really, that's really you?
Zai Zai: The one on the extreme left.
Yan Jie: The one wearing green right?
Zai Zai: Right, this is a scenic shot.
Yan Jie: All the others are your classmates, right?
Zai Zai: Yes, all were my classmates in Senior High.
Yan Jie: So as I was saying, if you look like this in pictures, who knows you might become Zai Zai. What I mean is, a person does change. Like for example, make friends with beautiful people, that will certainly add to your handsomeness (pogi points). Then you will slowly change in this kind of environment. Did you have a girlfriend at the time.
Zai Zai: At that time, I did.
Yan Jie: You must have oh.
Zai Zai: Did I or did I not have? Hmmm, yes I had.
Yan Jie: You must've had. Do you treat your girlfriends well?
Zai Zai: Not too bad.
Yan Jie: Not too bad?
Zai Zai: (nods his head)
Yan Jie: Hmm. you don't keep in touch anymore?
(commercial break)
Zai Zai: Actually she did not get in touch with me.
Yan Jie: After coming to Taipei, you lost touch?
Zai Zai: Oh, we kept in touch. Later when I became an actor (Yi Ren), sometimes they'd call.
Yan Jie: What?
Zai Zai: Meaning when I entered this line of work.
Yan Jie: I thought you said after you became a ¡§Yue Tzi¡¨, hahaha, what?
Zai Zai: Ai yow
Yan Jie: After you became an actor, right?
Zai Zai: Right, then they stopped calling me.
Yan Jie: Really?
Zai Zai: Uhm
Yan Jie: Don't you get sad?
Zai Zai: Sad about what?
Yan Jie: Like for example, your life now. Of course I feel that being an actor is delightful, you gain many friends and the applause of your audience and there's much work that comes your way. But of course your life would be different from before.
Zai Zai: (nods)
Yan Jie: Sometimes, one would think of that time when one did not have any cares or worries. Do you?
Zai Zai: Sometimes, I would. But.because.well..it's fate...(laughing)
Yan Jie: Fate? What a good fate. Not bad eh?
Zai Zai: Uhm it's ok la. Ok la.
Yan Jie: Then let's take a look at the next one.
Zai Zai: This was when I was in Senior High.
Yan Jie: I feel that when a person puts on a uniform, cuts his hair short, then everyone looks just like the next person. Actually you were saying this was in your younger days. Let's have another look, is that classmate standing next to you still around?
Zai Zai: He always remains.
Yan Jie: No, what I meant was.
Zai Zai: Actually we haven't kept in touch.
Yan Jie: You haven't kept in touch.
Zai Zai: Right. Actually at that time, our hairstyle were being strictly monitored. The ears should not be covered. Since my ears were a bit sticking out so I looked like Mickey Mouse.
Yan Jie: Besides you really wanted to grow your hair longer, as long as you possibly could (referring to the top portion of the hairstyle which was really long), right?
Zai Zai: Right
Yan Jie: How come your school uniform is violet?
Zai Zai: Violet jack.That's our sports jacket. Then we had a uniform which was..mmm..also violet, that's odd.
Yan Jie: How odd. What we just saw was his student days. Zai Zai is a Gemini. Entering the entertainment circle was actually unexpected. Among the 4, everyone says that Zai Zai nature is the most amiable.
Zai Zai: No, I disagree. Because sometimes, and they all know this, sometimes when I haven't had anything to eat, I don't have energy, then I would clam up. No matter who speaks to me, I wouldn't answer.
Yan Jie: Did you know Cai Jie once told me that you're about to eat her into the poorhouse. You really can eat a lot, right?
Zai Zai: Very much so.
Yan Jie: No matter how much you order, you'd be able to finish it?
Zai Zai: Right. I remember one time when we went to Kaoshiung for a handshake session. After we were done, we went to a Mexican restaurant. Wow, it was so delicious. We split into two tables. There were only a few at our table, the four of us and a few staff. Whew, we ate so fast, then we kept on ordering and ordering.
Yan Jie: Good thing I hadn't planned on treating you guys out.
Zai Zai: That's too bad.
Yan Jie: (quoting) that's too bad, hahaha.. Zaizai mentioned before that his dream was to open up auto repair shop with his brother. (to Zai Zai) You like cars very much, right?
Zai Zai: Very much so.
Yan Jie: Since you like cars so much, why don't you sell cars instead of opening an auto repair shop?
Zai Zai: Because my brother has been learning quite a bit about auto repair.
Yan Jie: Your brother has been learning auto repair..
Zai Zai: So I thought that if I could one day earn a bit of money, then I could invest in him because I'm not really gifted in that field. Since he's the one with the interest, then I could just invest. He'll do the hard work, and I'll be the boss.
Yan Jie: Invest in him and be the boss.
Zai Zai: So that I can order him around, tell him what to do.
Yan Jie: Do you have the money to invest in him?
Zai Zai: Well if business is good then I would.
Yan Jie: I heard that Zai Zai is a very generous person. Often when you go out to eat, you'd treat your companions.
Zai Zai: Well, yeah. Because I believe that if I can earn some money now and then have enough to live on, then I would do my best to treat my friends to something to eat.
Yan Jie: Do you have a savings account?
Zai Zai: Yes
Yan Jie: You have a savings account now?
Zai Zai: Yes, yes.
Yan Jie: Not bad huh, you're still a student.
Zai Zai: Right, just a little.
Yan Jie: Did you give it to your mom?
Zai Zai: Yes, my credit card, er..no, not credit card, but my savings passbook is with my mom.
Yan Jie: So you have a savings account but the passbook is with your mom, meaning to say, you can't really get your money, right
Zai Zai: Actually I can get it but there's really nothing that I want to spend my money on, so I just leave it there.
Yan Jie: From the time you started filming Meteor Garden..for an artist I think that first day on the job is really the hardest to forget. Because on that day, you'd realize more or less whether you would be able to continue on. Perhaps on your first day, the director would tell you, ¡§you don't have to come back, we won't have any use for you anymore, or maybe suddenly change the character that you're playing. So at that time, Big S was already very popular, right. The four of you were all newcomers but Big S was already made.
Zai Zai: That's right.
Yan Jie: Were you afraid of her.
Zai Zai: I was. I didn't have the courage to talk to her.
Yan Jie: Really?
Zai Zai: That was how I felt at that time. Because honestly speaking when I used to see her on TV, I would think that she's a very person to get close to. It was only later that I found out that she was really a good person. hahaha
Yan Jie: Whew, I was afraid of what you were going to say, because she's coming here in a while.
Zai Zai: I know, she's my (elder) sister.hihihi
Yan Jie: But she really a very straightforward person right?
Zai Zai: Right
Yan Jie: I think she's really a lovable person, just don't rub her the wrong way.
Zai Zai: Actually it's ok, surprisingly, I don't seem to rub her the wrong way.
Yan Jie: Among the four of you, who do you think she is the closest to?
Zai Zai: I think it's me.
Yan Jie: Really?
Zai Zai: Uhm.(nods)
Yan Jie: Why?
Zai Zai I don't know. Perhaps because for some time during the filming of Meteor Garden, San Cai and Hua Ze Lei had the most scenes together. So naturally, we would always be chatting. Then we noticed that actually we both had the same views and ideas on a lot of things. We would find the same things funny. So she thought that I was a really funny guy. So she sort of adopted me as her little brother (gan di).
Yan Jie: She what?
Zai Zai: Gan Di. Did I say it wrong? Gan Di.
Yan Jie: Gan di (adopted brother), I thought you meant India's Gandhi. So she adopted you as her little brother eh?
Zai Zai: Right
Yan Jie: And she's your adopted (elder) sister?
Zai Zai: Uhm.
Yan Jie: You know this business of adopted sisters and brothers, I've always felt that it's a bunch of hogwash. Plain and simple, it's two people who can't make a relationship work, so they just call each other Gan Jie Jie, Gan Di Di. (for us, we call it soulmates)
Zai Zai: It's not like that. I've never thought of us like that.
Yan Jie: You haven't thought of it that way.
Zai Zai: I think it would be really weird.
Yan Jie: If Big S did not have a boyfriend now, would you court her?
Zai Zai: Me? No.
Yan Jie: Oh? You look like you're hurting.
Zai Zai: But I've always felt she's like a sister to me.
Yan Jie: Sister?
Zai Zai: Yes
Yan Jie: I heard you're very generous
Zai Zai: She's more generous than I am.
Yan Jie: Does she always give celphones as gifts?
Zai Zai: Her? Me, I haven't given anyone a celphone, have I?
Yan Jie: Do you buy celphones often?
Zai Zai: It's just that when it comes to celphones, I'm always looking for newer models.
Yan Jie: You like the new stuff.
Zai Zai: Right.
Yan Jie: So whenever a new model would come out, you'd go and get one.
Zai Zai: I like!
Yan Jie: You like. So strictly speaking, you hate the old and love the new.
Zai Zai: Only with regards to celphones.
Yan Jie: That's what I meant ¡V celphones. How about when it comes to computers?
Zai Zai: Computers?
Yan Jie: I heard you're proficient at computer games?
Zai Zai: Actually I'm not good.
Yan Jie: Later, Zai Zai says he'll teach me how to play computer games. But now, he'll take us to Yilan first. Yilan is your hometown.
Zai Zai: My hometown, yes.
Yan Jie: Do you still go back there?
Zai Zai: Not too often now because I don't really have time.
Yan Jie: Not too often he says but today he will go back there to bring us to the places that he frequents. Let's take a look
(Video Clip)
Zai Zai: Do you guys want to eat?
Guys: Ok
Zai Zai: One ¡§Goat Soup with Medicinal Herbs¡¨
Owner: for takeout?
Zai Zai: Dine in
Owner: Ok, how many orders?
Zai Zai: Just one. (to the group ¡V if you want, you can order later.) Actually during cold weather, if your body isn't too healthy, eat this and you'll feel a lot better. You'll eat..hey, there's my friend, but don't film him, he's shy...ok, thanks....looks like she gave me a lot of meat. Usually, when I eat this soup, I would also order a bowl of salted pork rice. But since today, I heard that I'm gonna be eating a lot so I decided to give up the salted pork rice, because if I eat rice now, I won't be able to eat anything else later and I plan to eat a lot! It's been a long time since I ate here at Yilan. Last time when I went back to Luo Dong, I didn't have time to eat. Because once I am full, I get lazy. Later I'll take you to that place where the fried chicken pork chop is my favorite. It's near my home and I haven't been there in a long time.
Owner: You want to eat fragrant fried chicken pork chop?
Zai Zai: Right
Owner: I was just telling your schoolmate that you haven't been here in a long time.
Zai Zai: (to the crew) Would you like to eat? How many?
Owner: One?
Zai Zai; 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7..7 in all.fried chicken pork chops. You know since I became an actor, I rarely get the chance to eat things like fried chicken pork chops. Because the company people, sometimes they'd tell me secretly that if I eat that, I'd get pimples. But today, I'm really going to eat, because I've already endured for so long, it's been a long time I've eaten such delicious food. Let's wait a bit. Talking about this store, I have a short story about it. One time the owner was promoting this new product, it's called deep fried chicken egg (Zha Dan). It's actually a boiled egg, then coated with some powder and then deep fried. Then they called it Zha Dan (bomb). So I told my friend, ¡§I wonder if anyone will order this. I think perhaps they'd be embarrassed to order it because of the name.¡¨ So saying, a customer comes in and orders ¡¥one zha dan'. I couldn't help myself, I kept on laughing. My friend was hitting me and asking me to stop laughing but I couldn't help it. Then the guy left with his zha dan. Anyway, it was really funny at that time. (author-even in Chinese it's not really funny, but since zai said so, let's laugh along). We've been eating fried chicken pork chops since I was in Junior High 2. You see that lady owner who was talking to me? From the time she got married, got pregnant, had kids, I was able to experience all that. I can say that I'm her foster mom. I was there through all the important events in her life. Ok, here it is. This is my favorite of all. (to the fans) But please don't send anymore ok. (end of video clip)
Yan Jie: What we just saw was Zai Zai's Yilan trip. We can see that he really loves to eat a lot of things. In fact he's very close to the lady owner. Imagine from the time she got married, pregnant and had kids, he was able to experience it all, what exactly did he experience?
Zai Zai; I saw her kids grow up slowly, it's amazing.
Yan Jie: I think you really have a way with women..like the lady owner
Zai Zai: Way with women? Ok la. (???? baffled expression on his face)
Yan Jie: Ok?
Zai Zai: Yeah.
Yan Jie: Did girls at school treat you well?
Zai Zai: Ok
Yan Jie: How about at work, do the female staff treat you well?
Zai Zai: Well enough.
Yan Jie; Well enough. That's what I meant by of ¡§way with women¡¨.
Zai Zai: Oh
Yan Jie: Right. Like your fans, most of them are female.
Zai Zai: hahaha well, of course.
Yan Jie: Don't get excited. That's why I said you had a way with women. Then..let me think..what do you think is your most handsome feature?
Zai Zai: Most handsome feature????? I like my eyebrows.
Yan Jie: Your eyebrows?
Zai Zai: Right
Yan Jie: Your hair is covering up your eyebrows, let's see them.
Zai Zai: Very think and curving
Yan Jie; You're right.
Zai Zai: um, no need for eyebrow pencil.
Yan Jie: Let's have another look, Show the camera your eyebrows. They're natural. Just look at those eyebrows ¡V thick and curving all the way down at the end. They're all natural, no one fixed them up..look at the camera now
Zai Zai: My hair got into my eyes.
Yan Jie: Totally natural and not fixed, right.
Zai Zai: Right.
Yan Jie: I heard that your mom came to your concert, she looks like you in a wig right?
Zai Zai: Yes
Yan Jie: Your mom looks so much like you. Are her eyebrows like that too?
Zai Zai: My mom's eyebrows are fine.
Yan Jie: Oh, fine, also natural?
Zai Zai: I wouldn't know if she plucks them or what because she's really very vain.
Yan Jie: So your mom is vain.
Zai Zai: Yes.
Yan Jie: Is your mom happy now that you have so many fans?
Zai Zai: Yeah, she's happy.
Yan Jie: Does she get worried?
Zai Zai: Huh? worried about what?
Yan Jie: about the complexity of the entertainment circle
Zai Zai: Nope. She really wants to be a stage mom. I don't get it, ever since before till now
Yan Jie: So she wants to be a stage mom.
Zai Zai: Truly.
Yan Jie: Your mom must be very pretty. So maybe she wasn't able to fulfill her dream of becoming a star and would like you to fulfill them for her.
Zai Zai: Possibly.
Yan Jie: Possible right. So does your mom keep on watching your show over and over?
Zai Zai: She does.
Yan Jie: And is she happy that you're singing? Have you ever sang a song for her?
Zai Zai: No
Yan Jie: Ha?
Zai Zai: Well, I just took home my CD and gave it to her.
Yan Jie: You're very filial right?
Zai Zai: I don't know what would be considered as very filial.
Yan Jie: I heard that you're very filial and kind.
Zai Zai: Well, at least I haven't been disobedient.
Yan Jie: Is that so?
Zai Zai: Yes
Yan Jie: Has your mom laid it down like, you have to get married at a certain age, you have to work hard at your career and made good before a certain age, be careful in the entertainment circle, girls are bad.
Zai Zai: A bit.
Yan Jie: And whenever you buy something, you'd also buy one for your mom right?
Zai Zai: I would buy two. If I feel that mom could use it too, then I'd buy one for her too.
Yan Jie: Like buying a celphone.
Zai Zai: Right.
Yan Jie: (laugh)
Zai Zai: You're scary.
Yan Jie: Who, me?
Zai Zai: How come you know all these things about me?
Yan Jie: How come I know everything? I follow you around, didn't you know? Actually for those who enter the entertainment circle, you life is usually very transparent. Such that whether you're good natured, do you treat the staff well, are you nice to your mom, actually these things, everyone knows them. But that is the lovable side of you. Actually when people talk of you, they say that among F4, you are the most lovable. Let's listen to what they have to say about you.
Zai Zai: Ok.
Yan Jie: You want to play computer games or listen to what people have to say first.
Zai Zai: Any will do.
Yan Jie: Then let's play computer game first.
Zai Zai: Ok
Yan Jie: Then listen to..otherwise you might not want to play anymore.
Zai Zai: Now?
Yan Jie¡¨ Right now!
Zai Zai: All these are real people.
was Yan Jie: What do you mean?
Zai Zai: I mean all the players that you see, they are all real people playing with you now. The So then click it. All characters start at level 1, the higher the level the more powers.
Yan Jie: Then.
Zai Zai: I'm thinking if I've said too much.
Yan Jie: No
Zai Zai: All these are real people. They're actually playing with you now.
Yan Jie: They're real people.
Zai Zai: Yes. This is where the creatures grow. This indicates the level and these are the weapons and those similar creatures. This one indicates his ability to restore his energy, the more it eats, the faster energy is restored.
Yan Jie: Normally you play alone at home. Do you talk?
Zai Zai: Yeah I do.
Yan Jie: Like his strength, what do I call him? Stuff like that?
Zai Zai: Yes, then, want to play?
Yan Jie: Guys who play computer games are like a different species.
Zai Zai: Then you can choose.
Yan Jie; You chose a weird creature.
Zai Zai: Then you can go out now.
Yan Jie: So has it grown?
Zai Zai: Not yet. You have to defeat weird thing in order to earn experience. So I'm looking for a weird thing to fight. Since it's only level 1, it's easy to die. Very far..
Yan Jie: You've gone very far but still no weird thing.
Zai Zai: There is, but we'll have to be patient, there are only a few weird things here.
Yan Jie: What's that hand?
Zai Zai: This one? It's the pointer, wherever you point it, that's where the creature will go.
Yan Jie: Asked a really out-of-it question.
Zai Zai: The special characteristic of this creature is that inside this forest, all the other creatures like it will not fight it. They'll even help it defeat the weird thing.
Yan Jie: Really?
Zai Zai: Yes, he has protectors. That's why even if it's only a low level, the other creatures will help it fight the weird thing.
Yan Jie: Where's the weird thing?
Zai Zai: I'm trying to look for the weird thing...it's puzzling..
Yan Jie: Coz it seems there's no weird thing.
Zai Zai: Let's call up the map, so we can see..
Yan Jie: Don't you find this game boring, you just walk and walk.
Zai Zai: Actually it's really a boring game, but there will be someone who will because of him..he's fighting, there's a creature here.
Yan Jie: Where?
Zai Zai: If you hit this monster..
Yan Jie: Who's cutting down the tree?
Zai Zai: .and fight it, the creature will help you and you'll gain experience points. Eh, weird, it didn't increase..
Yan Jie: What did you hit?
Zai Zai: I hit a monster. This is a very low level.
Yan Jie: But he didn't hit, he just walked through.
Zai Zai: That's because I used bow and arrow.
Yan Jie: Oh, you used bow and arrow.
Zai Zai: Coz I'm holding bow and arrow.
Yan Jie: Use bow and arrow.cool.
Zai Zai: Then look here, there's a mushroom. You can hit it.
Yan Jie: Why hit the mushroom?
Zai Zai: Hit it and something will drop from it. Then you can exchange for it. Look, I got mushroom juice.
Yan Jie: You got what?
Zai Zai: Mushroom chicken.
Yan Jie: Mushroom chicken?
Zai Zai: Mushroom juice (stick out tongue) The use of mushroom juice is simple.
Yan Jie: What's the use of mushroom juice? Is it like the water from the fountain of youth?
Zai Zai: A while ago, we saw someone hitting the tree right?
Yan Jie: Correct.
Zai Zai: If you throw mushroom juice at the tree, it'll give you the tree bark which you can use to make things.
Yan Jie: Use the tree bark to make things...how do you know this stuff, is there an explanation somewhere?
Zai Zai: Right, there's an explanation. Ok, wait
Yan Jie: Monster arrow.
Zai Zai: I'm not sure I know what I'm doing.
Yan Jie: I think you can play something more interesting.
Zai Zai: Like, hit that way and you hit it.
Yan Jie: Hit whom?
Zai Zai: Hit the tree branch and tree bark. Like you can use the branch to make an arrow and use the bark to make some kind of weapon (Fang Ju).stammering on the word Fang.that's it.
Yan Jie: I still think isn't there a more interesting game we can introduce to Zai Zai?
Zai Zai: Actually, this one is enjoyable
Yan Jie: Enjoyable?
Zai Zai: The thing is very strong.
Yan Jie: Wolf man is here.
Zai Zai: Like..
Yan Jie: What's that with the tail?
Zai Zai: That's a wolf (Lang), (stammering on the word)
Yan Jie: What?
Zai Zai: The one that goes AH-WOOH.
Yan Jie: Lang.
Zai Zai: Did I pronounce it wrong?
Yan Jie: You said Lan (basket)
Zai Zai: That's a Lan.look we're now on level 3
Yan Jie: You even killed the wolf
Zai Zai: Right.
Yan Jie: Wow, you're good.
Zai Zai: Then the strength will be maintained.
Yan Jie: Hey, the creature of yours is becoming better.
Zai Zai: You're right. There are some players who'd deliberately attack other players, That's weird and really bad of them.
Yan Jie: Hmmp, bad.
Zai Zai: Yeah.continue practicing.
Yan Jie: Enough, don't continue with the game anymore.
Zai Zai: Anyway, that's about it.
Yan Jie: That's it.
Zai Zai: Leaving the game..
Yan Jie: So you're like your dad, you don't really like to chat, right?
Zai Zai: Right. I'm not really the type who will talk about my problems with people at home.
Yan Jie: I'm saying your dad does not talk to your mom about how he feels.
Zai Zai: Well, my dad does not talk to me. When he was small, he was not in the habit of pouring his heart out to my grandma and granddad too.
Yan Jie: He doesn't
Zai Zai: Yes, they say my personality is exactly like my dad's.
Yan Jie: Now let's listen to the staff talk about Zai Zai, what kind of a person he is.
Lu Shu Juan (staff): Talking about Zai Zai. well, he can really sleep, that's what I can say. The worst was the time when he shot his first MV. His call slip was for 6 a.m. So we agreed that I would give him a wake up call at 5 a.m. so that he would have some time to take a bath. So I started calling him at 5 a.m. By 5:40 there was still no answer on his celphone. No one was also answering their phone at home. So I had no choice but to go to his house. I knocked and knocked. But because his room was on the third floor, even if I kept on banging on the ground floor door, he didn't wake up. In fact everyone there was sleeping like the dead. So I started shouting but still to no avail. Eventually the company people convinced me to give up and leave. After I left, I still continued to call. Finally at around eight or nine o'clock he finally answered the phone, using that kind of tone ¡V the one that tells you he was groggy with sleep and being really put upon to answer the phone. So I went, ¡§Zai, finally you're awake. Can you take a look at how many missed calls you have.¡¨ He answered, ¡§around 70 or 80¡¨ and I asked him, how many numbers, he replied about two. And I went, ¡§that's because all the rest are from me, you're so hard to wake up!¡¨ Actually after you've gotten to know him, you'll notice that he's quite talkative. And you should listen carefully to him, because he makes a lot of sense. For example..he will.actually he's very intelligent. He'll suddenly spout some bit of wisdom or wit. I always call him the adlib king. Sometimes we're running late, then everyone's tired. And he's suddenly go ¡§Yue Wan, Yue Khai Hua¡¨ (the later it is, the more the flower opens). And you'd think, everyone's so tired, yet he's still so energetic and still able to tease everyone.
Yan Jie: So you're really a lovable and cute guy huh, Yue Wan Yue Khai Hua
Zai Zai: I'm just fond of saying stuff.
Yan Jie: Fond of saying stuff.
Zai Zai: Whatever suddenly comes to my mind. I would just say it out loud. I don't think about it, whether I should even be saying it. I just say whatever comes to mind.
Yan Jie: Are you afraid of Matilda Tao?
Zai Zai: Before, very much so.
Yan Jie: How about now? Even more afraid?
Zai Zai: Well, still intimidated. Ever since that thing..really frightening.
Yan Jie: Actually in the entertainment circle, there are many Jie ¡V like Tao Tzi Jie (Matilda Tao), Xiao Yan Jie (Swallow) and others. Of course, the entertainment circle is fun. You four work together but you each have your own characteristic. I heard that you compete with each other.
Zai Zai: You're referring to..work?
Yan Jie: Of course.
Zai Zai: I think professional competition is not bad.
Yan Jie: Not bad.
Zai Zai: In my opinion.like among the four of us, we may feel that so and so seems to have improved a lot in his acting, and this would make us want to improve too. I think this is actually good for us ¡V because it makes us improve.
Yan Jie: Of the four, you're the one that I'm least close to. We haven't really bumped into each other too much. You're the youngest, right? Who's most like an older brother?
Zai Zai: Right.
Yan Jie: Who's most like an older brother?
Zai Zai: Who's most like..
Yan Jie: No one..
Zai Zai: Actually when we're all having a good time, there's no one who's like an older brother.
Yan Jie: How about Jerry?
Zai Zai: What I can say is that he has a very strict work ethic. Then his self-expectation is very high. He feels that when it comes to his work, he has to do his very best. A lot of people say that he likes to pull a long face. I don't agree. Coz sometimes we'd talk and he's say that maybe people will say that he's being a prima donna or something. But actually he's not, it's just that there are some things that he wished he could have done better that's why he's mad at himself.
Yan Jie: So he has high self-expectation.
Zai Zai: Right.
Yan Jie: I feel.like sometimes you come to promote something and he would just sit in a corner, right?
Zai Zai: (nods) Sometimes.
Yan Jie: Carrying his backpack, sometimes he looks downright pitiful and so lonely.
Zai Zai: And I thought I was the loner because I was fond of playing computer games. But sometimes he'd just stay alone at home and call the staff when he gets bored with his own company. And he doesn't play computer games so he just watches TV.
Yan Jie: Actually I think each one of you is a bit of a loner. Like you play computer games and what do you call that..model assembly?
Zai Zai: Hey, I think it's fun.
Yan Jie: What do you assemble?
Zai Zai: Like a shape of a dinosaur but maybe with controller for movement. You can disassemble it then re-assemble, then make it walk.
Yan Jie: Like the hand becomes the arm.
Zai Zai: Something like that
Yan Jie: You like playing that.
Zai Zai: It's not really playing. You get like a sense of accomplishment after you assemble something. Then you can put it on display in your room and say, ¡§I made that.¡¨
Yan Jie: Actually Zai Zai is just like a regular guy. He'd stay at home and play computer games. (to Zai) Do you go online to chat?
Zai Zai: Before, I did, but now, rarely.
Yan Jie: What name do you use.
Zai Zai: Fictitious name
Yan Jie: Fictitious name?
Zai Zai: Yes
Yan Jie: Ah Liang pretends to be a girl
Zai Zai: Really? I've always wanted to learn how to speak like a girl, but I think I'd surely get caught.
Yan Jie: He says when you talk like a guy, no one would speak with you. It's better to pretend to be a girl
Zai Zai: Really?
Yan Jie: Have you gone online to chat?
Zai Zai: Yes
Yan Jie: Have you made friends?
Zai Zai: Yeah
Yan Jie: Really
Zai Zai: Yeah
Yan Jie: Did they later find out that you're Zai Zai?
Zai Zai: No
Yan Jie: They still don't know till now?
Zai Zai: Right.
Yan Jie: You're very secretive
Zai Zai: Yeah, coz if they knew, that'd be scary
Yan Jie: F4 was not really formed as a group. It just so happened that the four of you filmed a series together and were called F4. But after that, each of you had his own series, singing, concert, everyone has his own different..they're part of the same company, together day and night. Let's ask them to talk about Zai Zai.
Ken: He's like Ban Chu Chi Lao Hu, acts stupid but he's not.
Vanness: He'd suddenly speak a line or two and everyone would start laughing.
Jerry: He'd always say cold jokes.
Vanness: I feel he's really very boring, because he won't go out with me. Sometimes I'd invite him, but he won't come.
Jerry: He's actually very kind. Contrary to his outward appearance, he's actually very caring and concerned about people.
Ken: He's always a source of some unexpectedness. Like his imprecise pronunciation, then he would suddenly spout some deep insight. Normally, he'd clown around acting cute then suddenly onstage, he'd be transformed into a prince charming. He'd always give you a surprise, some thing you would never have thought of.
Yan Jie; Actually that's the special trait of a Gemini, tries to look cute..normally can't speak clearly then when onstage, suddenly full of emotions and can sing love songs very well. When he was small, his ambition may have been to become like Andy Lau..tell me, when you entered the entertainment circle, did you already have a plan or an idea of how you were going to go about it?
Zai Zai: Actually I really like acting. I'd like to try different roles. For me, being versatile is better.
Yan Jie: Just like that?
Zai Zai: Well not really. Actually I've been thinking that I want to play a schizophrenic. When I told F4, they said, hey, you can handle that, because you're already schizophrenic. When you're unhappy, you'd sit in a corner and won't talk to anyone. Then suddenly you'd laugh out loud and kid the others.
Yan Jie: I think there's some news of you guys practically everyday on the newspaper. Do you get mad if there are untruths written about you?
Zai Zai: Yes
Yan Jie: Sad?
Zai Zai: Very much so
Yan Jie: Like now, if someone would take a picture of you, would you get mad?
Zai Zai: Yes
Yan Jie: So you have to be careful with everything you say and do, right?
Zai Zai: Yes, even to go out with some of the staff or some such thing, you know?
Yan Jie: I would like to wish you well in everything..hope you can play the role that you want to play...buy the car you like.and make some good friens.
Zai Zai: Thank you, Xiao Yan Jie
(after the show)
Yan Jie: Today is the first time I interviewed Zai Zai. I look at him and he really has very handsome eyes and eyebrows. He's very intelligent and full of inspiration. People say he's calculating, I disagree, he's very lovable. He says he likes Andy Lau very much, I believe someday he'll be as popular as Andy Lau. We would like to wish him good luck and hope he enjoys his computer games.
Zai Zai: Privately, I'd ask her a lot of things and she'd teach me a lot about how to do things and how to interact with people. I'm very thankful to her. I've been thinking ¡V that game I played today, was it wrong but it was really enjoyable. I'm sure those players are in playing heaven, I want to say Hi!